Hydrogen--all other elements

jbonham1 · Guest

Hi,

Is it true that all other elements (100+) in the Periodic Table are made from Hydrogen? Like, variations of Hydrogen nuclei in those atoms?

jbonham

RobJim · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:17 am Post subject:

The standard hydrogen nucleus is a proton. There are also isotopes that have a neutron or two in addition to the proton. Since even the biggest elements do not have a neutron to proton ratio greater than 2:1, fusing hydrogen atoms over and over could concievably make up any other nucleus.

However it's not true that

...all other elements (100+) in the Periodic Table are made from Hydrogen...Like, variations of Hydrogen nuclei in those atoms

because a hydrogen nucleus consists of exactly one proton. Helium's nucleus with it's two protons is not a "variation of a hydrogen nucleus" because it does not contain exactly one proton.

jbonham · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:03 pm Post subject:

So, Hydrogen then is NOT the root of all elements?

RobJim · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:19 am Post subject:

Well, that question is confusing. What does that mean..."root of all elements"?

I think all elements did ultimately come into being through fusion of hydrogen atoms inside of stars. First hydrogen fused into helium (and maybe other light elements, I am not sure) and then these elements fused into heavier elements, etc.

How do you mean the question exactly?

jbonham · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:05 am Post subject:

Accordng to the site [url]h2carco.com[/url], under "The Truth about Hydrogen" it says "2) What is hydrogen?
Hydrogen, the first element in the periodic table, is the simplest, lightest, and most abundant element in the known universe. Hydrogen has one proton and one electron. All other atoms are made from combining additional numbers of hydrogen nuclei."

That is what I meant by the 'root of all elements'.

So, I guess what I am trying to determine, is what is the RELATIONSHIP of Hydrogen to all other elements?

RobJim · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:13 am Post subject:

Oh, all right. All elements were and are made from the nuclear fusion of hydrogen atoms inside stars (or thermonuclear bombs), or the fusion of the products of these reactions with each other or with hydrogen. So yes, that statement made by that website is correct.

jbonham · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject:

OK, just a few more questions.. Smile

So, the Hydrogen atom, 1 proton and 1 electron: only the electron moves, and the proton does not move at all? Correct? That is how I understand it, the whole atom may move, but the proton does NOT move, only the electron. Correct?

A little off topic, but I also read that Hydrogen could be stored and delivered via the same pipelines as natural gas. To be used for the same purposes.
Is that true? Do you know where I can find out more about that information?

Thanks RobJim

jbonham

RobJim · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:08 am Post subject:

Nick · Regular Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 23 Location: Spain atm

Calculating the Schroedingerequation there is a part, where the "movement" of the electron is replaced with the movement of the electron and the proton around the center of mass.
But once again you cant talk in "movement" at quantum levels.

As to Hydrogen is the mothersubstance of all the other Elements in the universe, this is not entierly true.
there is no posssibility to create atoms heavier than Iron through fusion.
atoms heavier than Iron are created through collision.
the Heavy Ion Department in Germany "created" e.g. the Atoms 113, 114 and 115.

Mitch · Regular Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 29 Location: Berkeley

Lets not forget the firt transuranic elements from www.lbl.gov